Couldn't they take advice though since they own Europa Park take some of their knowledge to give them a hand
Pirate Adventure
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Just because their themepark has theming, doesnt mean they make it themselves. American, English and European companies have all built theming for Europa Park, in recent times too.
It would make no sense for them to go ask Mack rides, who would in turn ask Europa Park, who would then go and ask one of these company's. When Drayton Manor could just go to one of the companies direct.
I went Drayton today and I looked at the pirate adventure building I know they sold some of the stuff inside but what are they going to do with the building that ride was one of my childhood favourites I’m 34 now and I still wish they would bring it back
Talking about Theming who did the work inside Ghosty Manor at Paulton’s park?
That’s what I mean there is still uk companies out there who can build good sets. Even Simworx’s could help with the boat system and projector mapping
That's the mystery of a Dark Ride you never know what's going on inside
I think currently not a lot. Maybe they been looking at all the options and the looping have a good track record of improving rides/bringing back SBNO rides as it’s a lot cheaper than replacing the whole ride.
Sorry for going off topic for a second but they did think about keeping Apocalypse if they could get the floorless side working and changing the 2 stand up to sit down so they could have 4 sides sit down but after spending the money to get the floorless open for the reminding 2022 season but they sorted the 1 problem which lifted the car to the top of the tower and it never released from the catch car so they lowered it back down and that’s where it stayed to be was removed.
People moan about the looping group but there’s more rides at Drayton then there’s ever been.
Mack rides are the fabricating company run by the Mack family. Their other companies; Mack one and Mack animation absolutely do engage in design work, including concept design, scenic artwork, AV design , show control etc) and were involved in some of the designs for Piraten en Batavia rebuild , after the awful fire a few years ago.
They don't directly manufacture the theming, but do the design work, architectural schematics, and are involved in the electrical/mechanical setups, and creative guidance during installation.
If you factor out the animations and control systems, I wouldn't say that Pirate Adventure and POTC are that different in terms of detail. Both used a similar Georgian style for most of the buildings, and a similar number historically relevant props for each scene . And the set pieces for both rides used mainly PVC / ABS polymers, hessian backed plaster , steel framing underneath, and fibreglass too, so there is not much difference between the two in scenic build quality, in all honesty. Both rides had bespoke soundtracks ; if anything Pirate Adventure had more in terms of musical variation, whereas POTC was a little repetitive in the yo ho leitmotif, but had more in terms of dialogue. If we're using POTC as it is now, then the lighting / dimmers/ flicker units the ride currently uses don't look natural in the way that the ride used to . There's an overuse of digitally controlled RGB LED strips in present day POTC too; which have a lower color rendering index. To be honest , if we are talking about the ride as it is now, there's tonnes of criticisms you can go in to (the silly removal of original scenes for silly reasons, constant film franchise references that make it feel more like a POTC film advert, the projection mappers)
The big difference between the two rides, as said, is obviously the animations. But hyper-realistic animations , as impressive as they are from a design standpoint, don't always mean a more immersive experience, in my opinion. In fact it can look rather unusual to see such lifelike figures unable to walk around and being in stationary positions; whereas this is less the case with the cartoonish figures you had in Pirate Adventure. Lots of movement also gives away all the game as to what's going on. Whereas the more 'still frame' or 'basic' animations can be better for immersion. The Kingmaker in warwick castle is a perfect example of how some of the best immersive experiences don't necessarily require a lot of movement. Your imagination fills in the gaps, using the visual stillframe detail provided. Personally, I quite liked like limited movements and cartoonishness of Pirate Adventure for that reason too.
POTC was brilliant in its original innovative 20th century form, and still remains a great ride, and owing to its budget has a certain set of advantages over other themed rides, but I disagree that it is 'objectively' better as a ride than Pirate Adventure, or that it is necessarily more immersive, especially if we bring in the rides modern day flaws. I'd say it very much is subjective, and a matter of opinion